Swine Flu Outbreak; Never Before Seen Mixture? UPDATED

(Look for 4/24/09 Afternoon Update at the bottom of this post. More updates following…)

Last night I stumbled across this from Reuters:

Seven people in U.S. hit by strange new swine flu

WASHINGTON, April 23 (Reuters) – Seven people have been diagnosed with a new kind of swine flu in California and Texas, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on Thursday. All seven people have recovered but the virus itself is a never-before-seen mixture of viruses typical among pigs, birds and humans, the CDC said. “We are likely to find more cases,” the CDC’s Dr. Anne Schuchat told a telephone briefing. “We don’t think this is time for major concern around the country.” Only one of the seven cases was sick enough to be hospitalized and all have recovered, Schuchat said. CDC officials are unsure whether the cases are related to an unusually late and severe flu season in Mexico in which 20 people have died.

This morning there are more details.

US ‘very concerned’ about swine flu outbreak

US medical authorities expressed strong concern Friday about an unprecedented multi-strain swine flu outbreak that has killed at least 60 people in Mexico and infected seven people in the United States.“It’s very obvious that we are very concerned. We’ve stood up emergency operation centers,” Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) spokesman Dave Daigle told AFP.

One major source of concern was that the virus included strains from different types of flu.

“This is the first time that we’ve seen an avian strain, two swine strains and a human strain,” said Daigle, adding that the virus had influenza strains from European and Asian swine, but not from North American swine. (emphasis mine)

In 11 of 12 reported human cases of swine influenza (H1N1) virus infection in the United States from December 2005 to February 2009, the CDC has documented direct or indirect contact with swine.

But the seven known cases of the previously undetected strain in the United States — five from California and two from Texas — did not have contact with pigs. The seven people infected have all recovered from the flu.

“We have determined that this virus is contagious and is spreading from human to human,” the CDC said on its website. “However, at this time, we have not determined how easily the virus spreads between people.”

Local and state health officials were interviewing not just the people who were infected but the people with whom they had contact, Daigle noted.

Officials were looking for the source of the infection, Daigle said, adding that US health officials were due to receive samples from Mexico that would be tested at a lab at the centers based in Atlanta, Georgia.

The World Health Organization (WHO) has identified swine influenza as a potential source of a human flu pandemic. Pandemics usually occur every 20 years.

“Our experts and others are saying are not saying it’s not a matter of whether but when. And we are past due,” said Daigle.

Buckle up people.  I will keep you updated on my current research into the 1918 pandemic.



UPDATE: 4/24/09 Afternoon

Deadly new flu strain erupts in Mexico, U.S.

“Our concern has grown as of yesterday,” Dr. Richard Besser, acting director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told reporters in a telephone briefing.

Global health officials were not ready to declare a pandemic — a global epidemic of a new and deadly disease such as flu. “So far there has not been any change in the pandemic threat level,” Besser said.

But the human-to-human spread of the new virus raised fears of a major outbreak. Mexico’s government suspended classes for millions of children in Mexico City, where scared residents rushed out to buy face masks and kept their kids at home.

“We’re frightened because they say it’s not exactly flu, it’s another kind of virus and we’re not vaccinated,” said Angeles Rivera, 34, a government worker who fetched her son from a public kindergarten that was closing. (Just for those that care to know, I have NEVER had a flu shot and have only had the flu twice in the last 31 years.)


Canada has not reported any cases of the flu and is not issuing a travel warning for Mexico, but the country’s chief public health officer David Butler-Jones said the outbreak was “very concerning” and Canada was paying close attention.

The CDC’s Besser said it was probably too late to contain the outbreak. “There are things that we see that suggest that containment is not very likely,” he said. Once it has spread beyond a limited geographical area it would be difficult to control.

But there is no reason to avoid Mexico, CDC and the WHO said. “CDC is not recommending any additional recommendations for travelers to California, Texas and Mexico,” Besser said.

Personally, I would be calling and emailing the CDC telling them to shut the border given the suspected 1,004 cases currently in Mexico.  Of course, it may just be too late.  Interested parties can reach the CDC at 1-800-232-4636 and email cdcinfo@cdc.gov.

Here is another tidbit which could be something completely different.

Possible Swine Flu Outbreak At NYC Prep School

Department Of Health Officials Testing 75 Students At St. Francis Preparatory School In Queens

New York City health officials say that about 75 students at a Queens high school have fallen ill with flu-like symptoms and testing is under way to rule out the strain of swine flu that has killed dozens in Mexico.

The Health Department’s Dr. Don Weiss said Friday that a team of agency doctors and investigators were dispatched to the private St. Francis Preparatory School the previous day after students reported fever, sore throat, cough, aches and pains. No one has been hospitalized.

The handful of sick students who remained at the school were tested for a variety of flu strains. If they’re found to have a known human strain that would rule out swine flu.

Results could take several days. In the meantime, the school says it’s postponing an evening event and sanitizing the building over the weekend.

Update: 4/25/09

Navyvet48 (resident of Kansas) has just informed me that there are two confirmed cases of this flu in Kansas and 8 of 9 suspected in the NYC prep school outbreak…waiting for confirmation on that one.

How many of you think this flu outbreak was put out to keep the tea parties from continuing to happen?

29 Responses to “Swine Flu Outbreak; Never Before Seen Mixture? UPDATED”
  1. navyvet48 says:

    I remember the first swine flu. It was passed easily between people. I got it. It was the worse case of flu I ever had. It became an epidemic at UMass Amherst because we were all stuck in our dormitories in 1978 during a blizzard that shut down the university and just about all of Massachusetts.

  2. lee M. says:

    What’s next? A mixture that has never been seen before? Let’s all hurry and vote in the North American Union so that we can enjoy the fruits of Mexico. Along with the drugs and murders, we now have the flu. HJow lucky can we get?

  3. Sounds like someone’s busy mixing cocktails, trying to get the perfect “recipe”…maybe too many people paying attention to avian flu efforts?

  4. Something wicked this way comes…

    Put this with the reports of FEMA doing research into being able to inoculate the entire population in 48 hours, working with local governments for locations of mass grave sites, training paramedics and police for conducting forced inoculation (at gun point if necessary), and sending out questionnaires to morgues and grave yards trying to evaluate capacity.

    Absolutely relentless…

    Watch “Bird Flue Hoax”:

  5. Mary Ellen says:

    I read on one of the blogs…I thought it was this one but I guess not, something about trucks that were being shipped from Mexico into the US that were carrying vials of germs (such as influenza). Some truck driver talked and said that he and others were paid a lot of money to bring these unmarked trucks in. I’ll see if I can track down where it came from. I could have sworn it was this blog. The mind goes when ya get old. 😉

  6. It was a woman from Albany, NY calling into a radio show, and yes, you read it here.

  7. yes it was here and I got verbally bitchslapped by a lurker for posting it. Just putting the information out there for people to think about. That was last week and now we have this. I agree with GG – this looks and feels like a test run.

  8. Diamond, I read a book about the 1918 pandemic; very scary.

  9. GG – You are the best!

    CA Patriot – did you read any part where they dug up the bodies a few years ago so they could isolate the strain and study it?

    Was that covered in the book.

    I am not worried about nukes – I am worried about this.

  10. Mary Ellen says:

    Thank you, Grail Guardian. When I read it the first time it sent chills up my spine. Now this…sheesh. I worry about my kids and grandkids. What a world to grow up in.
    And thank you, Diamond Tiger, this is the only blog I saw that covered that story. This is what blogging is all about, passing information that the media refuses to cover.

  11. Cactus Patch says:

    Yet another reason to CLOSE THE BORDER!!! These people are crossing the border and actually shooting at border guards….isn’t that an act of war? I am an RN, as soon as I saw that there were cases in California and Texas, I knew that it had came from Mexico. What will cross over next….? AlQueda? The Taliban? or they could sent people in to let loose bioterrorism into our water supply or anywhere. I live in Arizona, so not too far from it. I really worry about it. Our governor asked for 1,000 National Guardsmen, and Obama denied it. Why do they refuse to guard/close that border? What do they have to gain from keeping it open?
    We have illegals over-running our towns and cities and commiting crimes, including murder, rape and kidnapping. Phoenix is now the second city IN THE WORLD for kidnapping. Maybe a pandemic outbreak stemming from Mexico will be the “wake-up call” for this administration. I could rant on this subject for days…have you seen how much illegal aliens cost american taxpayers per year? Have you looked at how many hospitals have had to close thier doors due to bankruptcy? The illegals come for treatment, and because of a federal law that states that ALL HOSPITALS have to treat patients, no matter if they have insurance or not. So they get treated, leave, and never pay the bill. We get stuck with the bill by paying more for medical coverage and higher medical insurance rates. Think about how much we could save on our medical care if there were no illegals here, it is in the billions. thanks for listening guys. Living in the “CactusPatch”.

  12. navyvet48 says:

    Interesting piece about the NYC prep school. The current strain of swine flu contains a human flu strain…if it is the flu at the school it will have to test out as a pure human flu strain.

  13. theadmiral says:

    Can you say ‘generated crisis’?

    May be time to gird your loins.

  14. Funny how it’s suddenly front and center, huh? Test balloon #2 – see how the public reacts?

  15. Yep GG – everybody look over here while we allow Iran to nuke Israel, and maybe if we are really lucky, america won’t notice the commercial real estate bubble collapsing and the assorted poverty that is going to accompany it.

  16. Diamond, it’s been a few years since I read the book. But they did go looking to find bodies. They found some buried in the frozen ground in Alaska: http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/08/1918-flu-antibo.html.

    This whole thing is very frightening. I don’t doubt that the assholes are going to try to kill as many as possible.

  17. another Patriot says:

    Please do not get sidetracked. Do not contact anyone in the gov until after you go You Tube and watch all 12 Bird Flu Hoax postings. Also check to see if your state is signed up for
    Model State Emergency Health Powers Act. This act allows the gov. to take your property if you do not allow them to give you the shot.

  18. What the hell?! Where’s the link? They can take my property, I want to move anyway.

    The frozen bird flu virus from 1918 is still viable.

  19. another Patriot says:

    The link is on the 4th post here by I think Practical Madman. I am so sorry I’m Not very computer savvy.

  20. another Patriot says:

    Diamond, I am not an alarmist but I believe this could be the catalyst. Because of bills put into law during Bush Admin. This could be the thing gov. needs to put us
    over the edge. If they determine an emergency we are going to be in a world of hurt. I’m so not good at computer skills but,I read the post about Flu Hoax. was the 4th post on this subject.
    It lead me to the most concerning thing yet. Please go to You Tube and watch all twelve of the videos by this Doctor. The Flu has been genetically altered in the US.
    The Chinese are creating the vaccine. A subsidiary of one of Rockerfeller’s companies in China. The gov. has already given the go ahead to administer the MANDATORY shot and there is enough for all of US.
    The last thing we need is to contact the gov. and raise a fuss. I pray none of it is true but my gut says…

  21. Madman, those videos have their own page under “The Pilgrims Society” at the top of the blog. Many, many mahalos.

    Another Patriot – I am looking to see if Hawaii passed the Model State Health Powers Act. It shows up back in 2001, but nothing since.

  22. Sorry Diamond, I forgot that this is where I originally got the youtube link from. Of course, as always, you are on top of things. Keep up the great work!

  23. WHO (World Health Organization), says it’s “been stockpiling doses of Roche Holding’s Tamiflu, known generically as oseltamivir, a pill that can both treat flu and prevent infection.” “The new virus, not previously detected in pigs or humans, has proved sensitive to the drug, the WHO said in a statement.”

    I’m suspicious of what kind of “vaccine” they have. They sure have come up with it awfully fast.

  24. 1sgboom says:

    Well, if the government poaggies show up at my door to give me “a shot”, the only thing they’ll get from me is a “shot” of LEAD, and it hurts more! I remember when I served during the first Gulf war (90-91) we were told that we would receive “inoculations” which we could NOT refuse. In fact, we were threatened with court martial if we refused, AND they wouldn’t tell us what this “inoculation” was. We all had these yellow shot record books that had recorded each shot we got during our service time,with the amount IE: 10cc flu virus, etc. When I got my shot, I asked the medic who marked on my book only 10cc without the type of drug, “what is this shot?” He told me:” don’t worry about it.” I got mad, pulled out my 45 pistol and told him that I would kill him if he didn’t tell me what it was,and I didn’t have anything to lose, and he said: “It was ANTHRAX…but you didn’t hear it from me.” I marked it down in my “yellow book” which I still have.

  25. Kathy says:


    The Turning Point Model State Public Health Act State Legislative Update As of Aug 15, 2007

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